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Hi,

What's the update with FTW? Did they start paying their members yet or what?

Thanks!

So the "Leaders" in the traffic exchange industry promoted a program because they offer huge commission, then went out crying like a little girl that they have not got paid in a timely manner? And the program seems to be a scam also, does the "Big Guys" now promoting scams?

Even the same people dont even offer his members commission.

Is it like this you learn in the Seminars!! Go for the program with the biggest commissions?-)

I am upgraded and surfing all the major traffic exchanges, have also built a small downline in most of them. I upgrade and promote to get more credits, i give a %&/¤ about the commissions, its just a bonus and if some dont pay commission, i dont care, i dont go around crying like a kid who have lost his lollipop-)


Once again, the traffic exchange industry is all about money, not traffic like in the good old days

Kjell

Boo hoo...The big guys are at it again, cry cry cry...

Is business down at your program Kjell?

Seems to be, because the only time you come around here is to try to stir things up and get people thinking about you...

Ya, I talked about it in HEN...And? I talked about your program and gave it accolades, I talk about a lot of programs.

As for them paying, I am still owed money, they haven't paid me.

My business is going very well, thank you-)

Kjell

No "Leaders" have been promoting FTW in any big way that I've seen and nobody is "crying"

They appeared to be a legitimate "normal" TE, so they were included in AF and Hoopla. That's where most of the commissions come from.

Now that they've been mentioned they've suddenly fixed some big tech issue that cost hundreds of manhours (on a lil ole LJ? hmmm) and they claim to be catching up with the backlog by several hundred dollars a day.

Commissions are just a bonus but still all part of the overall deal. Any owner not paying out after over a month most definitely deserves to be outed. Good to see this one reacted positively. Though, for the record, I too have yet to be paid.

I was just going to say that they better step up to it. Otherwise the members are going to start to think "am I wasting time promoting it or being active in it?".

Hi Dan
well that's up to the owners. they started very well and it has grown fast.

if they don't sort the commissions out fast i suspect those who have been promoting will all drift away to those of us they know are fast and reliable. That would be the sensible move

I don't promote FTW, so they don't owe me any commissions. However I AM waiting for credits I purchased. I sent two tickets (with proof of purchase), and no answer yet.

They're not exactly giving me the warm fuzzies.

Well... I don't personally have any problems getting my commission payments from FTW and that's because I never joined. LMAO And... From the looks of this thread... I made the right decision and WON'T be joining any time soon.

Dan

LOL yes Dan. wise move.

they ignored me too Jackie, three tickets without a reply. first was about a joint surf promo so they missed out big time but there ya go. was before the commissions thing came up obviously so i'm glad about it now.

It's a pity to hear that, what a waste, they could do so much better...

There are never an excuse to delay the payments, must be if paypal have close down their account or a servercrash but it does not take a month to get a new server.

I think the deafult with the lj-script say you get paid in 1-30 days, so we dont really have the right to complain before after 30 days if not the owner have set it diffrent.

I pay out when i see the the request, but will start with weekly mass payout in the future when i learn how todo it,lool

To pay out the pay-out requests and commission to members should be first priority from the owners, its the members that have earned that money for us so they should get paid.


Of caurse when we have earn the money we have the right for them, its why we all work, to get paid to pay our bills but when there are coming threads like this that fit more in talkgold forum, then there should ring a bell anyway, its not a good reputation for the traffic exchange industry (My personal oppinion)

Personal i dont thing ftw are scammers, they just offer to high commissions and maybe spent the money that should have been used for payouts to pay some bills.

I think the money will come, but more people complain in here about it, less chance is it that anyone will get paid at all, and they shut down and leave for good.

But if you get these excuses after you ask for pay-out request, then the bell is ringing-)

1. Server crash
2. The pay-out request emails got lost
3. Have no internet access. ( You can goto a internet cafe or to your neigbour and borrow his pc)
4. My mom is sick and are in hospital
5. Got a flue, had to stay in bed
6. Payment are on its way-)

These was the normal excuses in the good old autosurf/Hyip days,hehe



Kjell

yup completely agree on delayed payments Kjell.

we've been delayed when paypal or alertpay are offline.

Or when I was the only one with access to my paypal it might sometimes take more than few minutes/hours cos I was outta town or whatever.

Twice had people complain we took too long cos I had the audacity to take a few hours sleep and they expected immediate payment LOL

Oh actually, I just checked my payout page - I thought it said allow up to 48 hours - I musta taken that out last time I edited to include account balance and whatever. it doesn't shape their expectation at all. My bad. It will in the next couple of mins!

Maybe we should start some automatic payouts, when some upgrade, their commissions go directly to their paypal, then we will never get any complaints

Kjell

I don't like that route personally, I want to be seen by paypal as the merchant and have direct control over the customer service if there are any issues.

Masspay is definitely an option though and will probably offer that in the not too distant future.