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 Post subject: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:56 am 
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There are some traffic exchanges running an ad
depicting a baby smoking a cigarette. i find that
NOT amusing but actually very counterproductive
to all the efforts that are being attempted in our
evolution to turn from the path of the monkey
to the man, or human.

If you see the Smoking Baby, can you please just
click REPORT SITE or REPORT ABUSE as almost any
TE owner is more than likely not going to catch the
ad with HitsConnect.

If you do see the ad on any TE, please let me know
as i am posting as up to date a list as i can on my
OBA-TEP forum.

At this point in time, i do know the smoking baby was
on hit2hit but the owner suspended the account
right away.

i have better things to do than chase after such drivel
if i am going to become the professional network
marketer all of you have been trying to help, but this
smoking baby just ticked me off!

Thanks for your help - any smoking baby sightings, send
me a note, please!

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:30 am 
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Can you please not click the site report button
at Dragon Surf... thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:35 am 
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Obviously the ad works... I won't ban it unless there is something misleading or it violates our terms of service.

:up:

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:36 am 
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I want to see the smoking baby too

Dragonsurf, here I come

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:41 am 
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:lol: Let's ban all ugly websites while we're at it :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:40 pm 
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Maybe we need a 'truth commission' or 'ban this commission' or an ugly commission :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:52 pm 
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TonyTezak wrote:
Maybe we need a 'truth commission' or 'ban this commission' or an ugly commission :wink:


I wonder if this is the type of commission we should establish; "If I don't like it, then it must be banned commission" It will be a tribunal consisting of Me, myself and I so you know it will be impartial

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:43 pm 
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Well I know that the "smoking baby" IS in rotation @ Barbarian, but I didn't see any reason to BAN that site. Where do we stop if we ban something like that? I kinda got a kick out of it myself and it caught my eye... Meaning it WORKS.

This is just my personal opinion though. Let's stick to Frame Breakers, Porn, Pop Ups that stop the surf bar, etc... Things that actually need to be banned.

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:55 pm 
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I don't care either way. Ban it or don't ban it.

But you all ban things, so why not this?
People who do things online may indeed feel that
the internet is a free for all, but what kind of crowd
do you wish to attract? A lot of people have lost
their jobs and maybe looking at online stuff.
Someone comes to your exchange, sees a smoking
baby, and what are they to make? They would not
see a smoking baby on a TV ad here in the states.
Sure, someone who has been a regular on TEs has
seen it all. But I wonder when it will change? If TEs
ever want to step out of the 'ol TE crowd, they
have got to look at things like this.

Honestly, I have yet to see the smoking baby.
Maybe the person who started this thread can hope
that it tanks and gets taken down as ineffective.

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:09 pm 
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Stephen...haven't you learned anything here? You're supposed to see what the GOB says about this topic and then be a 'yes man' and make a post in agreement. Sheesh...damn noob.

You should be castrated for actually having the balls to state your own opinion on this. That just isn't right.


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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:23 pm 
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A brief Google search will bring many resources to your attention with regard to U.S. Federal Law(s) about the usage, and promotion, of advertising utilizing, or targeting, children and cigarettes. Basically, it is illegal (in the United States) to use, promote, or ALLOW such advertising. Legislation was enacted (circa. - 1998) that vigorously restricted any such advertising, and is supported by significant fines and/or imprisonment.

Although some may think that it really doesn't matter, there are several VERY vigilant Watchdog Organizations that make it their life's mission to eradicate any such advertising, and ANYONE that allows it to be propagated/advertised. I found listings for dozens of these groups on Google, some of which are quite radical in their approach, and the lengths they are willing to take to 'stamp out' such things. And since it is a Federally enforceable statute, they have the backing of legal recourse.

Stephen has a valid point as well. What kind of 'image' do you really want new people to have of your business? You only get one chance to make a first impression. Whilst it may seem humorous to some, it could be offensive to a much larger group (hence the massive 'push' by consumers at large to enact, and enforce, the legislation against such things).

I have not seen the page in question, nor do I have a penchant to align myself with the anti-tobacco coalition (yes, I AM one of those 'nasty' smokers) ad-hock. I would, however, pull/ban such a site based upon the preponderance of verifiable legal precedent, and the fact that an extremely large percentage of the American population (our consumer base) could, indeed, take issue with it. I would also inform whomever the owner/advertiser(s) of the site were with regard to basis for my decision.

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:24 pm 
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If anything, this forum is about disagreements, debates and good ol' fashioned rants.

That whole 'do as the GOBs say' bull is so 2007.

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:42 pm 
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LOL! I am rolling because I clearly stated I don't care
either way. But I tried to quietly say that maybe,
perhaps the man who started this has a valid beef with
the ad. Me, I'd probably tell the man that we hate
banning sites, but if enough complaints come in, it
may need to be taken down, and, maybe he can live
with it to see how things come out. Remind him that
complaints come in all the time, including sites that
he may rotate.

I sure would like to see this smoking baby to see if
it is comically done so you know it's an off the chart
joke or not. I have not been surfing much today.

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:53 pm 
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Well, I for one will ban this site too.

It's disgusting in my opinion.

You can get your point across in a better way than that.

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 Post subject: Re: BAN THE SMOKING BABY
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:05 pm 
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Just bookmarking in case someone posts a link to
the add. I wanna see it.

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